- Protester 'Shoved' For Speaking Out
- Fact About Healthcare As It Stands
- Sean Hannity's 2009 San Diego Freedom Concert
- Pushing Obamacare Is Going Against Majority Of Americans
Posted: 11 Aug 2009 09:37 AM PDT
Notice when and where the violence, the physical confrontations begin at the Obamacare townhalls across the country?
In St. Louis it was a conservative black man that got beat up by an SEIU, Obamacare proponent and CNN reports today on Arlen Specter's townhalls meeting and a confrontation seen there.
The shoving incident occurred early in the 90-minute session, when a man started shouting that he had been told by Specter's staff that he could speak, but he didn't get one of the 30 cards distributed to people allowing them to ask questions. Another man stood up and shoved the protester, and Specter approached the men shouting for calm.
Not only are the majority of Americans against Obamacare and especially the single payer, public option, but they are getting damn tired of being called "unAmerican" by Pelosi and crew and of having their majority opinion compeltely ignored by their president and Democratic politicians and being shoved and hit (literally) for daring to speak up and voice their opposition.
[Update] Via The Politico, we see Specter put in his place by the crowd as well, reminding him of exactly who he works for.
"When he says that I'm tramping on constitutional rights, I have to disagree with him," said the senator, who switched from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party this year. "I'm encouraging constitutional rights. I'm encouraging constitutional rights by coming to Lebanon [Pa.] to talk to my constituents. I could be somewhere else. I don't get [any] extra pay. I don't have any requirement to be here."
That is what Barack Obama and the Democratic politicians seem to forget.... they work for us.
Posted: 11 Aug 2009 09:07 AM PDT
All this talk of a single payer, public option aka government run healthcare system and none of it addresses what is truly wrong with the system we have right now and how it could be fixed instead of changed completely.
Having formerly worked for a doctor and then a payer for insurance companies, I have a few facts of life that everyone doesn't know and perhaps they should.
First, how many of you know that a doctor, to be able to be accepted and payed for seeing a patient under certain plans, has to sign a contract stating they will accept (XXX percentage of their actual bill) to be allowed the privilege of seeing patients covered under that insurance company?
Sometimes that percentage is as low as 20 percent of the actual bill, leaving 80 percent of the work done, unpaid for.
If they don't sign those contracts, they are not an accepted physician under that plan and patients cannot go to that doctor and have the bills paid.
This leads to prices hiking up so a doctor can recoup all that money that insurance companies refuse to pay.
You can see how that trickles right down on Americans.
Then you have the drug industry, where certain medications can cost up to $20, $30, $40, $50 and higher, for one pill and the insurance companies won't cover that cost.
The fact is, millions of Americans pay into their healthcare, week after week, month after month, year after year and when something happens and they need medical attention, the insurance companies do anything they can, find any reason they can dig up, to simply not pay for the procedures done.
Does this sound like I am against private insurers?
I am not, I am totally opposed to Obamacare and a single payer, public option... just to make that clear. The government has no place in my health decisions......not now, not ever.
What I am saying is that instead of trying to shove a government healthcare down our throats, who would do the exact same thing as the insurance companies are doing now, refusing to pay, making doctors accept a small portion of the payment they are due for services rendered, deciding for us whether our decisions on our healthcare are the "right" ones, perhaps we need to fix the system we have now.
(Look at Medicare now and Congress deciding that doctors aren't going to be fully reimbursed)
One place to start:
Make the insurance companies actually pay for the services rendered, that would lower the cost of those services because doctors wouldn't have to hike the charges up to cover the work they are doing.
People claim that those of us against Obamacare just want to keep the status quo, are liars or just ignorant. We all know our healthcare system could be improved on a massive scale.
It does not have to be completely overhauled, we do not need big brother telling us what we can and cannot do with our own health.
What we need is a system we pay into, by our own choice, not stolen from us by raising taxes to cover those not paying into it at all, to pay for the services rendered by the professionals capable of providing those services.
It is called capitalism.
Posted: 11 Aug 2009 08:21 AM PDT
I recently attended Sean Hannity's Freedom Concert in San Diego. This was America at its best.
eric aka the Tygrrrr Express
Posted: 11 Aug 2009 09:11 AM PDT
One of the key elements in Obamacare is the Public Option aka Single Payer, where the masses in America would be enrolled in a government run healthcare system.
Cost aside, which the Congressional Budget Office has already proclaimed to be unsustainable, Americans do not want the government making their medical decisions for them or being in control of what their options would be.
In a nation where freedom is guarded closely, Americans do not want to see those freedoms taken from them, especially in the area of their health.
Before the August vacations our politicians take, Barack Obama tried to push, very hard, to get Congress and the Senate to jam through his healthcare proposal aka Obamacare, insisting the public option be part of it.
It didn't happen, which has given the public a chance to read up and learn what is in the bill that would forever change the healthcare system in America, and it seems by latest polls, Americans are opposing that one element that the president wants so badly.
People are turning up at townhall meetings across America to oppose it, they are speaking up and refusing to allow the Democratic politicians simply run a townhall that is nothing more than an Obamacare infomercial, they are insisting, loudly at times, that their questions be answered and their opposition be heard to the single payer/public option.
Rasmussens latest poll shows 52 percent of American voters oppose the single payer plan, with only 32 percent favoring it.
Thirty-two percent (32%) of voters nationwide favor a single-payer health care system where the federal government provides coverage for everyone. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% are opposed to a single-payer plan.That is the majority.
It is not surprising to see the breakdown along political lines, but what is important, and what Obama is completely ignoring, is the the sheer number of those unaffiliated with a political party that are opposed. 63 percent. Almost two thirds of Americans not thinking with a political mind and putting politics aside, simply do not want government in control of their healthcare.
What is Obama's response to the will of the people?
To go to more townhalls to defend his plan, instead of listening to the people, the majority, the voters, he plans to keep on pushing, even as the number of Americans oppose continue to rise, week after week in poll after poll.
Wall Street Journal headlines by calling Obama "tone-deaf" and they have a very good point.
The president shouldn't worry about the protestors disrupting town hall meetings. He should worry about the Americans who have been sitting at home listening to him.
Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, Barack Obama, Democrats and liberals all over may want to try to convince people that special interests and activist groups are behind the massive opposition to Obamacare at those often spoken about townhalls, with Pelosi and Hoyer claiming those proptesting Obamacare are "unamerican" in their method of protesting, but what about those being surveyed for poll after poll, saying they are opposed to the key element of Obamacare, which is the single payer, public option?
Those people are reading the bills, they are learning about what is in the bill, they are clearly opposed and there is no activist group behind them, they are every day, working American voters.
Opposed to Obamacare and Obama is ignoring them as if they didn't exist because HE prefers the single payer option.
Obama's previous statements, as shown in the video above, make it very clear he wants to eliminate private insurers and wants everyone on a public option/single payer healthcare system.
All the claims from him now, saying you can keep your insurance if you want to, no one will force you to take government healthcare, are smokescreens, once you lose your insurance plan (and employers will have no incentive to keep a private insurer), for whatever reason, you will be locked into his... period.
The president has a problem. For, despite a great election victory, Mr. Obama, it becomes ever clearer, knows little about Americans. He knows the crowds—he is at home with those. He is a stranger to the country's heart and character.
Listening, speaking up and those same Americans will be the people voting in the next elections.
[Update] Another Rasmussen report, not specific to the public option, but to the general Obamacare plan, shows 53 percent of Americans oppose the Obamacare plan itself.
Public support for the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats has fallen to a new low as just 42% of U.S. voters now favor the plan. That's down five points from two weeks ago and down eight points from six weeks ago.
Is Barack Obama listening to the American public?
Don't hold your breath.