Posted: 08 Aug 2008 11:13 AM CDT
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama seem to disagree on the method of appeasing her supporters in order to unite them with the rest of the party again.
Democratic officials are "scrambling" to figure out how to avoid embarrassment at the Democratic National Convention from Hillary Clinton supporters that are demanding a roll call vote.
In a recent answer to one of Clinton's ardent supporters, who asked Clinton about an open roll call vote at the convention, shown on YouTube, Clinton said she was looking for a strategy to use at the convention that would offer her supporters a "catharsis". Clinton said "The best way I think to do that is to have a strategy so that my delegates feel like they've had a role and that their legitimacy has been validated. It's as old as Greek drama. There's a catharsis. Everybody comes, and they want to yell and scream and have their opportunity, and I think that's all to the good."
Obama disagrees with that as evidenced by his statements shown in a Washington Post article, "I'm letting our respective teams work out the details. I don't think we're looking for catharsis. I think what we are looking for is energy and excitement about the prospects of changing this country, and I think that people who supported a whole range of different candidates during the primaries are going to come out of that convention feeling absolutely determined that we have to take the White House back."
Complicating matters further, Clinton supports have received a permit to have a parade and rally in Denver during the convention. The date of the parade just so happens to coincide with the date that Clinton will speak at the convention.
Clinton supporters and delegates are still mobilizing to try to force a vote on the convention floor to give Clinton supporters a voice at the convention and one person that is helping to organize that effort is Michele Thomas, who says, "If the party is speaking about unity, they [the Clinton delegates] believe the only way to unify the party is actually allowing them to vote. Moving beyond the convention, if they were not allowed to vote there would be a lot of resentment."
If there were to be a roll call vote, the likely scenario would be that Clinton delegates would issue a symbolic vote for Clinton and the rest would vote for Obama in the first round of balloting.
A candidate needs 2,118 to win the official nomination and if neither candidate received that number, then a second round of balloting would occur and it is likely that Clinton would then officially release her delegates to Obama before the second round of balloting, and then Obama would get most, if not all, the delegates and officially win the party nomination.
This is not a favorable scenario for the Obama campaign because although he would still walk out with the official nomination, it would show divisions, very publicly, within the party as they are trying to show a united front.
There is also the potential in that scenario to embarrass Hillary Clinton if Obama did win enough delegates in the first round of balloting and she received less than her supporters believe she will.
Officials from each of the two maintain that negotiations about an open vote on the convention floor are still in the works, but recent reports have stated that Hillary Clinton will not ask for her name to be placed in nomination, which she must do in order for it to be there.
That report did come out before the YouTube video of Clinton's question and answer session.
[Update] As soon did I hit activate on this article, another piece came to my attention directly related to the Clinton delegates.
Dozens of Clinton delegates are speaking out and saying they will untie behind Obama if they get their convention vote and are allowed to vote in the first round of balloting for their candidate of their choice.
Though the majority of the Democratic Party backs Sen. Barack Obama, an undercurrent of staunch and loyal Clinton supporters say they'll fight all the way to the national convention, which begins Aug. 25 in Denver, to put her name on the ballot.
One delegate, a Ms. Brenda Krause, says she is tired of "fearmongering" among the Democrats and states, "I'm not going to be coerced into something I don't believe in. That makes me less unified. If they let me have my voice, I'll feel more unified."
Another delegate, Daniel Kagan, a property developer and lawyer from Arapahoe County, says, "I will come on board the unity train with a first-class ticket if, before doing so, I get the opportunity to vote for my candidate. On Aug. 28, when Obama accepts the nomination, I will be there cheering along with the rest of them, but only if I have had the chance to vote first."
Kagan is among a small group of people working to garner 300 signatures from national delegates to complete DNC rule requirements to put Clinton's name back on the ballot. Even if they get enough signatures, Clinton must agree to have her name placed on the ballot.
According to a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Convention Committee, Natalie Wyeth, Howard Dean who is the chairman has said it is up to Hillary Clinton.
Source- Denver Post
Posted: 08 Aug 2008 10:10 AM CDT
Parts of Russia's 58th Army — including 150 tanks and armored vehicles — reportedly were moving Friday on the capital of South Ossetia after Georgian troops entered the city in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking to control the breakaway province.
Georgia's president said Friday that his country is under attack by Russian tanks and warplanes, and he accused Russia of targeting civilians as tensions over the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia appeared to boil over into full-blown conflict.
Earlier Friday, Russian military aircraft dropped two bombs on Georgian territory, a Georgian official said, causing no casualties.
More at Bloomberg.
I woke to this news, so no commentary at this time.
Posted: 08 Aug 2008 09:39 AM CDT
[Update] Reports say the Westboro animals will be turned away at the border. (See full update below original post)
For those unaware of who the Westboro Baptist "church" is, you can catch up on all the pieces about them here, but long story short, they protest at military funerals or high profile funerals holding signs that say "god hates fags" or God hates America. To them god hates just about everybody because homosexuals exist... they are twisted and sick.
Now they are planning to travel to Canada to picket at the funeral of Tim McLean, the 22 year-old that was stabbed, decapitated and by most accounts, parts of him were eaten.
The reason stated by Westboro founder, Fred Phelps, God is punishing Canada.
"We're trying to get you to see that your rebellion against the standards of God, your disobedience to the commandments - your idols, your false gods, your filthy ways have brought wrath upon your head.
Yesterday PETA was in the news for trying to use McLean's death for their advertising campaigns, to which the newspaper they wanted to run them, refused.
Tim McLean's family deserves time to mourn and these two pathetic groups need to stay out of their faces.
[Update] Reports show that border patrol will not let the members of Westboro into Canada to picket McLean's funeral.
Posted: 07 Aug 2008 05:38 PM CDT
Democrats praise McCain ad below and YouTube URL here, hat tip Hot Air.
Previous glowing statements from Democratic lawmakers are the theme of the new ad produced by the McCain campaign, ending with words from Hillary Clinton.
John McCain's new spot which was placed on YouTube on August 5, 2008 shows Democrats praising him publicly. It starts with "John McCain is a Maverick, just ask Democrats" and ends with words from Hillary Clinton.
Former Democratic Senator and Senate Majority Leader from South Dakota Tom Daschle, speaking to praising how John McCain can work with Democrats on key issues.
Senator Joe Biden, former presidential candidate, who says that he would be honored to run with or against John McCain.
John Kerry, Senator and former presidential candidate stating that he has enormous respect for John McCain as well as calling him courageous and patriotic American who stands up for what he believes.
Howard Dean saying that he admires Senator McCain greatly and taking it a step further saying that McCain was one of the people he modeled his campaign on because he is very direct and very blunt and nobody has to guess what he is thinking.
Senator Russ Feingold saying he loves McCain, he is a great guy!
The ad goes on to show that even "Obama has praise for the Maverick"
It concludes by giving the last word to Hillary Clinton in her now famous speech where she says, "I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience that he will bring to the White House and Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002."
This is the second such ad using the Maverick theme in the last few days.
When Hillary Clinton made that speech about McCain's experience back in early March, Democrats from all over criticized her for it, and many conservatives at the time thanked her for saying it and assured people that she was providing John McCain with ammunition against Obama should she not take the nomination.
Before it came down to Obama and McCain being their individuals party's presumptive nominees, Democrats, including Obama had nothing but wonderful things to say about him and heaped praise on the way he was a proven entity that could work across the aisle and get things accomplished.
The Democrats publicly professed their admiration for John McCain and reminding people of what was said and by the opposing party, is a good way to suggest to voters that what they hear now is simply campaign rhetoric.
Tucker Bounds, who is a spokesman for John McCain's campaign, when asked about the use of Clinton in these ads, said, "We don't go into our media strategy but it's not unlikely that she will figure in further ads."
Posted: 07 Aug 2008 03:13 PM CDT
According to the secret service Geisel issued the threat against Obama while attending a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. Another tip received said he also had threatened President Bush.
A judge ordered Raymond Hunter Geisel to be held without bail after authorities charged him of threatening to assassinate the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama.
Authorities searched Geisel's SUV and hotel room and found a loaded handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition, body armor and a machete.
The suspect says he is from Bangor, Maine and insists he is no threat to Obama nor did he threaten him. He also maintains he did not threaten the President.
[Update] CNN just announced that there was more than one gun found and that some of the ammunition consisted of armor piercing bullets. Susan Candiotti said this was word from secret service. (No links to that information yet online but will link to them once available)
[Update #2] CNN Political Ticker reports the man said his comment was a "joke".
[Update #3] An AP report says that according to court documents, the man said, "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking,"
In the affidavit, the Secret Service said Geisel told agents that he suffered from psychiatric problems including post-traumatic stress disorder, but he couldn't provide the names of any facilities where he sought treatment.
Also according to that report, the threat itself was phrased as "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself." This was allegedly said after calling Obama a racial epithet.
Developing and will add any additional information as it comes out.
Posted: 07 Aug 2008 01:45 PM CDT
The Edwards affair/mitsress/love child story threatens to finally explode into the MSM with reports that Democrats expect him to address the issue within the next couple of weeks or take the chance of not being able to speak at the Democratic National Convention.
From the News Observer:
With two weeks before their national convention, several prominent Democrats are saying Edwards must publicly address anonymously sourced National Enquirer stories that claim he had an affair with a campaign worker and fathered her baby.
If Edwards fails to clear up the story in short order, he risks party officials deciding not to have him speak or, if they do, creating a distraction from a week focused on Barack Obama accepting the nomination.
John Edwards has prayed that if he just ignored this whole thing, it would go away, but with the photos now released showing he was at the Hotel, whether the one holding the baby is accurate or not, it is pretty much a given with the confirmation of hotel security, that he was at least there, he needs to step up and either denounce the story and sue the National Enquirer if he can prove they are telling false tales, or admit it and be done with it.
It isn't going to go away and the sooner he deals with it, one way or another, the sooner the firestorm will die away.
Posted: 07 Aug 2008 01:12 PM CDT
YouTube URL here for the news report, hat tip to Michelle Malkin. (Video below)
Milwaukee Election Commission says that criminal investigations could be initiated against individuals who belong to a group called Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now aka ACORN, for trying to add dead, imprisoned or imaginary people to the voter rolls.
Many might remember the criminal cases against certain ACORN members that were committing voter fraud by trying to add dead, imprisoned or imaginary people to the voter rolls in previous election years. ACORN is in the news against for the same thing.
According to Sue Edman, the commission's executive director, investigators are investigating 200-300 fraudulent voter registration cards that were supplied by members of ACORN.
In this case it was ACORN themselves that brought the problem to the attention of the commission. Even so, it is sparking up the debate about requiring photo ID at the voter booths for upcoming elections.
The ACORN effort is part of a massive voter registration drive aimed at the fall presidential election, which is expected to pit Democratic Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois against Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona.
Edman says in one case, "One woman called us to complain because her husband has been dead for 10 years and a voter registration was submitted."
In about 12 cases, deputy registrars paid by ACORN were "making people up or registering people that were still in prison," said Carolyn Castore, ACORN's state political director.
After the trouble in 2004, certain state and federal reforms were enacted but not all have been implemented and in the 2004 presidential election Republicans expressed concern about "voters registered from non-existent Milwaukee addresses, and a Journal Sentinel review found about 1,200 votes were cast from invalid addresses."
Investigations were started and they spurned charges against people, some of which were felons that voted illegally.
2004 was not the only election which ACORN related voter fraud was investigated because in 2006 four members were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms to the Kansas City, Missouri, election board.
ACORN works in at least 38 states and Canada and Mexico and are referred to as "shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party".
One the most egregious examples show that in 2006, when the federal probe started, seven different voter applications from the same person dated between Aug. 29 and Aug. 31 were found.
In that case an ACORN member, Todd Elkins, said the applicant might have just been "overly friendly" and signed up seven times.
Another example was found when a 19-year-old woman had filed 11 applications to vote.
At that time, similar allegations were made in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Denver.
There has been litigation arguing the need for Photo ID in elections in the states of Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri and Ohio.
States That Request Photo ID are Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan and
The most recent case was the Supreme Court decision in April of 2008, upholding Indiana's voter ID laws.
Read more at Malkin's place for more on ACORN and mortgage scams.
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